The Exit Interview: A New Art Form?

            As you may or may not know, members of Team Shotgun have the ongoing nagging habit of switching day jobs.  The following Exit Interview was contributed by our own Li Rapkin from her personal files.  Is it truth?  Satire?  You be the judge.  Then again, you might already know.

 

 

Exit Interview

 

 

 

Employee Name    L. I. Rapkin                                                                            Date        10/19/00

 

Selection

What kind of work did you do at the Company?  Originally, I was hired as a technical writer.  After the advent of the Datafill project, I became a technical editor, although my time was actually spent color-coding manufacturer material for keying overseas rather than editing existing text.  When the markup process was slated to be outsourced, I wrote a training manual for the process and trained local vendors.  My next position was “Database Advocate”, and my responsibilities included identifying and solving problems in the database.  This quickly degenerated to “DataCheck”, where I was expected to proofread hundred of units daily, as well as handling additional responsibilities as the Team Leader.  When the DataCheck project finished, I was sent down to Data Acquisition, where my primary function was to hand-number pages in manufacturer material.  My most recent position was Managing Librarian.

 

 

Training

Who explained your job to you? My technical writer training was done by Kara Davis, who left the company shortly after I was hired.  Kyle Dudley and Ryan Williams, who are also no longer with the company, provided Datafill markup training.  Proofreader training was done by a woman whose name I no longer remember, but she is also no longer with the company.  Data Acquisition training for the mail receiving & page-numbering position was by Erika Fields.  Nobody trained me for the Managing Librarian position, because I had more library science experience already than anyone else in the company.

 

How? Having been in the position of both trainer and trainee, I would say that the best answer to this question is “haphazardly at best”.   There are no actual company trainers with experience in education, nor are there any training manuals.  Team leaders and/or employees with experience—in some cases, no more than a few weeks’ experience—are selected by managers to train incoming personnel.  When I was told I would be training proofreaders for the DataCheck project, I was given three hours to write a training manual for a procedure that was not yet fully defined.

 

 

When you began work with the Company, who introduced you to the people with whom you would be working and told you about working at the Company?  Nobody.

 

 

Financial

How do you feel about your pay?  My primary feeling about my pay is “resentment”.   HWS/eCatalogs is the only place I have ever worked where I was making less money after one year than I was when I started.  This was due to my involuntary changeover from second shift to first shift, and the commensurate loss of my shift bonus.  Later, when I was a Team Leader with approximately 18 months experience, I discovered I was making approximately $5/hour less than the temporary employees I was training for my team.  When these same employees were hired in, they took a significant pay cut, but were still making approximately the same amount per hour that I was.  I was not compensated for experience, seniority, or additional responsibilities.  I am also fully aware of the fact that this was not an isolated incident.  This is also the only company I have ever worked for that did not have holiday bonuses, a profit-sharing plan, or both.

 

 

How do you feel about your progress at the Company?   Like training, my progress has been haphazard at best. For quite some time, I was actually making negative progress.  I was hired as a technical writer, a position that required a Bachelor’s degree, and after two years, I was in a position which required the equivalent of a high school diploma.  The only reason I even got the position of Managing Librarian was because I was asked specifically to “come up with a few ideas to improve the library” and was eventually given the job title after performing the job functions for several weeks.

 

Supervision

 

What do you feel/think about your supervisor?  My current supervisor, Erica Carpenter, is one of the few members of the management team for whom I have any trust or respect.  I feel that I can rely upon her to be honest with me, even if the news is unpleasant.  She is also one of the few managers who publicly recognizes exceptional employees and their contributions to the team.   The only other manager I have worked for who has earned the same level of respect from his team members is Andrew Moxon.  I have also worked for Bob Ratliff, who has excellent personnel skills.  Stacy Nolan, who was my supervisor under the DataCheck project, has the full complement of technical skills, but failed to inspire either trust or confidence in me, particularly because she told our group in a meeting that contrary to rumor, there were no plans to fire anyone.  No more than two weeks later, half of the team was fired.  Normally, I would take this opportunity to complement some of the Team Leaders I have worked with, but none of them are still with the company.

 

Did you complain to your supervisor?             ___X__Yes           _X____No

 

If yes, how were they handled?  Most managers I have worked for have had little difficulty solving minor personnel or procedural problems. 

 

If no, why not? On the occasions when I did not bring problems to my supervisor’s attention, it was usually for one of two reasons.  The first reason was that the problem was the supervisor herself or himself, and I expected that the sole result would be either subtle retaliation or a prejudicial firing.  The second reason was that the problem was endemic to the company, and therefore beyond my supervisor’s power to solve.

 

Have you had any troubles with your supervisor?        __X___Yes           _____No

 

If yes, describe.  I have had considerable difficulty with the attitude of Itai Ben-Artzi toward female employees.  In one of first meetings after the sale of HWS to eCatalogs, a female employee asked whether or not telecommuting would be an option.  Mr. Ben-Artzi replied that telecommuting was a bad idea, because “you would be too busy drinking coffee, taking care of babies, and making dinner for your husband.”  I have to question whether or not a male employee who asked the same question would have received an equivalent answer.   Given that response, I feel that even if I were to discuss a work-related problem or  issue with him, I would not be taken seriously, simply because I am female.   This only contributes to the already extant problem of lower-level employees receiving promotions from managers with whom they were socially involved.  The combination of these factors not only breeds resentment among employees, but also creates a hostile workplace environment.

                More generally, there is a pervasive “us vs. them” attitude among the production-level employees.  There is a high level of mistrust for upper-level management, and given the conduct and attitude of those managers, the only thing that surprises me is that outright hostility is reserved for so few managers.  These managers have, on more than one occasion, told employees to “have morale”, and upon asking for suggestions on how one should have morale, the answer is always “work harder”.  There is no visible effort on the part of management to solve the morale problem that it is responsible not only for creating in the first place, but exacerbating with asinine comments such as “Ask not what your company can do for you, ask what you can do for the company.”  There are no company-sponsored “extra-curricular” activities such as sports teams, blood drives, community service, etc., nor is there any incentive program to encourage employees to excel.  Other companies routinely reward exceptional performance with gifts or bonuses, while this company doesn’t even give employees a holiday bonus.  At eCatalogs, an exceptional employee is lucky to receive a “thank-you” from his or her supervisor.  Even practices that are common at other companies, such as a casual dress code and flexible hours, are absent from this workplace.


 

 

 

 

Summary

 

What did you like best about your job?  For the most part, my coworkers are very interesting and pleasant people.  Also, most of the speeches given by upper management are full of unintentional comic irony.

 

What did you like least about your job?  Most of the work I have been assigned has been boring, tedious, repetitive, and does not give me a sense of accomplishment.  There is little to no opportunity to be creative, solve problems, or use any of the skills that I learned while getting the degree that was supposedly required for my position.  Production goals have been outrageously optimistic, given the technological problems that the company is experiencing.   Also, it is nearly impossible for me to do my job properly without the cooperation of project managers and job advocates.  I have had no opportunity to give feedback directly to these people.

 

What did you like best about the Company?  I am pleased to have avoided sexual harassment by most members of upper management.

 

What did you like least about the Company?

1.  Titles, responsibilities, positions, and personal workspaces are constantly changing.  It is impossible to learn a new procedure or position in time to be successful before another change is implemented.

2.  The aggravated hostility between management and labor.

3.  The regressive, rather than progressive, nature of my alleged career with the company.

4.  Management’s persistent refusal to deal with morale problems.  Given that production-level employees are not responsible for the creation of the morale problem, it is insulting that we have been peremptorily instructed to solve it when we are not in a position to do so.

5.  Management continually blames employees for lack of productivity, refusing to recognize the fact that people are moved around too quickly to learn their jobs, the fact that one database or another is always crashing or being taken down for maintenance, and that everyone is so overburdened that it is impossible to get anything done.

6.  The company has been extremely slow to replace employees lost through attrition.  Instead, the workload is redistributed among those who remain.  Employees are then expected to put in tremendous amounts of overtime in order to complete their work as well as the additional responsibilities that have little or nothing to do with their jobs.

7.  The complete absence of any organized and consistent training.  Also, although I was signed up for training in MS Access no less than three separate times, I was never sent to any kind of training class, even though I have used Access almost constantly for several months.

8.  Management is perceived as being dishonest with employees.  In a best-case scenario, employees assume that important information is deliberately withheld.  Most of the time, employees simply assume that management is lying to them.

9.  Employees were compelled to sign a “loyalty agreement” with the company.  In return, we were to begin vesting for stock options.  However, there has been no concrete evidence of stock options, nor has there been any information about why we haven’t seen any progress on this issue.  Loyalty is not something that comes with a signature on a piece of paper.  Like trust, it must be earned, and the company has done absolutely nothing to return either trust or loyalty to its employees.

10.  The endemic lack of communication from employees to management and back, the lack of communication between team members, and the lack of  a feedback mechanism.

11.  Although employees have been told more than once they are the company’s “most valuable asset”, the company has done nothing to back up this assertion.   I, and most of my coworkers, feel that the company could not possibly care less about employees.

12.  The widespread perception that competence is its own punishment.  Being good at your job only gets you more of the same boring work with the resulting need for more overtime, without any increase in compensation or responsibilities.

 

Do you have any suggestions for your leaving the Company?  This question makes absolutely no sense at all.   If I were to answer it literally, I would suggest that I leave the Company six months ago.  However, I would like to point out that the fact that the question makes no sense perfectly illustrates one of the problems the Company has.  In a building full of technical writers and proofreaders, why didn’t anyone bother to proofread the exit interview?

 

 

Would you be willing to stay at the Company under a more satisfactory arrangement? _____Yes  __X___No

 

What changes would be required?  I do not believe that the company would be able to offer me anything that would induce me to stay under current circumstances.

 

 

 

Other comments:

1.  As the Managing Librarian, I have experienced a great deal of frustration in the course of trying to perform my job.  I am constantly hampered by the fact that decisions are made and not communicated back down to those of us who are affected by the changes.  One example of this was when the library was trying to provide manufacturer material for Orgill.  We were given a list and told to pull material, then stopped on four separate occasions.  It is extremely difficult to provide manufacturer material when the list is always changing.

 

2.  I have often compared working at this place of business to living in Stalinist Russia, in that public information is highly propagandized with little informative content, and anyone who complains about those in power is swiftly and effectively silenced.

 

 

3.  From the time that I was hired in July of 1998 until HWS was sold in February of 2000, the company reorganized approximately every three months.  This doesn’t promote a feeling of stability or job security, and although the post-sale restructuring has been somewhat more organized, there is still a constant changeover in personnel.  Not one of the production-level employees I regularly interact with has a sense of job security.

 

4.  The morale problem has had serious side effects for employees.  Although the rampant rumor mill seems to be the primary concern of management, other problems include but are not limited to a widespread lack of motivation and high levels of job-related stress.

 

 

 

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